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  • #31
    I tend to avoid bases with maxed walls or close-formation defences when I use my HT nation - I leave these bases to my Brits. My heavy tanks will move through any other type of base with ease. Hope this helps.
    Morality, like art, depends on where you draw the line.

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    • #32
      Once you have the splash damage library tech, do opposing enemy infantry still pose a problem for the heavy tank?

      If you were to roll out like 5 of them, would they just steamroller the base? What would be able to stop them if they had splash damage to mow down any troops? Only anti-tank guns?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by astero View Post
        Once you have the splash damage library tech, do opposing enemy infantry still pose a problem for the heavy tank?

        If you were to roll out like 5 of them, would they just steamroller the base? What would be able to stop them if they had splash damage to mow down any troops? Only anti-tank guns?

        Anti tank gun and IA mines and may be defend HT tanks and high level Generals. But as usual, you will need to apply this extreme technique to suitable cases. Look for bases with weak anti-tanks. The reward is less re training rate.
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        • #34
          Just thinking that it could be useful in combination with planes, as they can take out the anti-tank guns (plus clear out cavalry/infantry if they start being a nuisance), leaving the heavy tank to eliminate anything else on the ground.

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          • #35
            It is nothing special if you use planes, with plane you can win anything. the difference between using all HT and a regular combination is HT require a huge time/cost up front but little retrain time. You can have zero casualties if you attack some with EA defense. Against a good IA defense, all HT army has not much advantages, even a few HT loss is too much.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Quang t legend View Post
              You can have zero casualties if you attack some with EA defense. Against a good IA defense, all HT army has not much advantages, even a few HT loss is too much.
              But with planes above helping out, what exactly can take out a heavy tank? Is it just the anti-tank guns you have to take down another way?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by astero View Post
                But with planes above helping out, what exactly can take out a heavy tank? Is it just the anti-tank guns you have to take down another way?

                planes cannot help all the time against all the numerous anti airs, the anti gun is the main threat, yes. And defend tanks can occupy them for some times.
                Last edited by Quang t legend; 03-06-2016, 06:01 AM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Quang t legend View Post
                  It is nothing special if you use planes, with plane you can win anything. the difference between using all HT and a regular combination is HT require a huge time/cost up front but little retrain time. You can have zero casualties if you attack some with EA defense. Against a good IA defense, all HT army has not much advantages, even a few HT loss is too much.
                  Let me ask people this: Is the point of battling to lose as few troops as possible? Or is the point of battling to win the battle? If your troops are killed but you win the battle isn't that the point? You use them to get the rss, diamonds, trade goods, whatever.

                  If you want to win the battle you use the troops that are best suited for that. More often than not my 3 HTs come back alive but sometimes I'll lose 1. However, in the end I've got the 5* win, I've got the rss, I've got that diamond. So it takes an hour to rebuild him - so what? He did his job. It seems a little naïve to go into battle and want most to come back. I understand the mindset that wants to lose as few troops as possible but ask yourself what's your goal when attacking .......
                  Rule #1: Troops die in battle.
                  Rule #2: Leaders can't change Rule #1.

                  FYI, not just directing this reply at you Quang - there are plenty of others out there who despair at losing their troops.
                  Morality, like art, depends on where you draw the line.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ravenlord View Post
                    If you want to win the battle you use the troops that are best suited for that. More often than not my 3 HTs come back alive but sometimes I'll lose 1. However, in the end I've got the 5* win, I've got the rss, I've got that diamond. So it takes an hour to rebuild him - so what? He did his job.
                    If it work for you then use it! For me there is a short time it can work for me and I have passed that time. Now I am in high medal league. Almost everyone I met have good anti tank and anti air. So I use many artillery and have no problem with winning. Rebuild a tank take 40 minutes is unplayable for me, because I play 1 hour per day non stop. If I put my phone down some will attack right away and take the loot more than I can earn in a battle.

                    On the resource front it is another matter. Gold and food is redundant with league bonus but oil is scare. It cost 360 oil for each of my triplane, 900 for each Heavy tank, so I have to choose to raid bases with at least about 1500 oil. I cannot afford to lose 1 HT each attack!

                    So when the time I could use HT? That's probably when I just reach IA and in low league, I can delay Airstrip and reach for HT instead, and use HT to raid EA bases. But as French it is hard to get HT to go with training blessing with the rest of troops, and hard to use HT with good French tanks.

                    And to remind, armor blessing and Versail get my French tank health about 22000 equal to health of HT. Weapon blessing can give them even more oomph! HT didn't get bonus from blessing!


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                    • Ravenlord
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                      I agree - if I were over 2000 medals I doubt I would use the HTs at all. My brits are currently at 2200 and they're happily ploughing through bases with a mix of black watch, tanks and artillery.
                      And if you're playing as the French I don't blame you for not using the HTs. As you said your normal tank can get pretty close to the HP of a HT - so it sounds like you're doing the smart thing not using them.

                  • #40
                    Originally posted by Ravenlord View Post
                    Let me ask people this: Is the point of battling to lose as few troops as possible? Or is the point of battling to win the battle? If your troops are killed but you win the battle isn't that the point? You use them to get the rss, diamonds, trade goods, whatever.

                    If you want to win the battle you use the troops that are best suited for that. More often than not my 3 HTs come back alive but sometimes I'll lose 1. However, in the end I've got the 5* win, I've got the rss, I've got that diamond. So it takes an hour to rebuild him - so what? He did his job. It seems a little naïve to go into battle and want most to come back. I understand the mindset that wants to lose as few troops as possible but ask yourself what's your goal when attacking .......
                    Rule #1: Troops die in battle.
                    Rule #2: Leaders can't change Rule #1.

                    FYI, not just directing this reply at you Quang - there are plenty of others out there who despair at losing their troops.
                    The point of battling isn't to win 5 stars as it isn't to lose the few troops as possible, it depends on your target.

                    If it's war, if it's medal climbing, if it's resource gathering, if is some achievement specific... (Like treason one)

                    In my case, I have the most fun upgrading my base, so I'm working on upgrading walls to level 10, so my main priority is resource efficent attacking, so what Quang says that a HT army has a very little retraining time, sounds interesting to me and worth a try, I don't care winning 5 or not, or medals, I only care about that I want to aim for 4 million gold raid in a TB session

                    But Ravenlord, how can you have two IA nations and one in 2200 medals ? Lol. You said me in a post I need a girlfriend and playing less, lol, and I think I read you do have a wife? :P. But I can't see that much sense in developing two nations at once, instead of focusing on one? Don't get me wrong, I have a second account and can see some point in it, but will use it as an slave for me real account, my "slave" is level 82 enlighment, and I picked French, same now as my main, just because is the best for donating / receiving. I though about having a second different civ for fun, but don't quite see the point? I could never bring it to my main level, basically because I have already 500 million raided there, lol, lot of time, and I need quite a lot still to upgrade all walls...

                    So actually what's the point? Don't you think you could focus in one of your nations and develop it at full instead of the work of working on two?
                    Campaing for asking food for walls! Please agree & support so we are heard! -->> We are the Foodwallers!!! Don't give up guys, Revolution or Death!!
                    Share your ideas for balancing food in later ages!! Thanks

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                    • Ravenlord
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                      Oh to ''only'' have two nations - wouldn't that be nice!! Truth be told I have 4!! My aim with the first one was to develop it to it's max level and it's doing very nicely, thank you, at lvl 156 - but when I started my 2nd one I soon realised that it would take up too much of my time - that's when I changed my mindset and adopted a very casual approach. Instead of 2 hours a night it became 20-30 mins a night - sometimes not even every night!. I'm happy to leave my rss out there for others - I'll get it back somehow!
                      That was a year ago and as time went on I ended up with 2 more, mainly to try out different nations and different uniques. It was only about 6 months ago that I formed my own alliance and started donating to myself!! All that time wasted!!
                      So actually what's the point? I like the game but I'm not a slave to it. I can pick up a nation, play for half an hour, then put it down and get on with life - or I can play the game while I'm watching tv. A commercial break is the perfect amount of time for a battle - then the game goes down and I'm back to watching tv.

                      The ''point'' - in my case - is that I enjoy the game. Some people play to win medals. Some people play to win rss. Some people play to beat other people. Some people play because they're addicted. Some people play to connect with other people. Me - I just play.

                  • #41
                    Ahahahahaha you are so funny Ravenlord! You say you are a casual player, but you admited, you have at least 4 accounts, say we are adicted the ones who play hours a single account to get walls, lol, Admit you are very funny saying, I have 4 accounts, but I play this game casual , reminds me a guy who posted in the Clash of Clans forums: "I am a casual player who has like 10 accounts", was very funny

                    That being said I'm happy you enjoy playing and of course play as you want, I do enjoy the game a lot too, it's a damn good game , but was just curious to check what people thinks it's casual playing and what is the moment: "get a wife and a life"
                    Campaing for asking food for walls! Please agree & support so we are heard! -->> We are the Foodwallers!!! Don't give up guys, Revolution or Death!!
                    Share your ideas for balancing food in later ages!! Thanks

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                    • #42
                      Hi. You really aren't being as effective as you can be if you're not rallying. Do it as often as you can, if you want to keep troops where they are you rally on a building that is very nearly destroyed. The building will disappear and all troops will stay where they are but the speed and extra fighting bonus of the rally will apply to all troops. You sometimes stuff this up by rallying just after the building is destroyed instead of just before, but this is a tool you should always try to be applying, especially if you are german. You will get through bases much easier.

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                      • wrathchild_78
                        wrathchild_78 commented
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                        that thread is from 2016

                      • No Angel
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                        Ok, so we 3 have to stay out from this thread, it's exclusive for Trusted ones only 😂

                    • #43
                      IMO the HT's only get extremely usefull when they reach mk4. just my opinion

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                      • #44
                        Rarely do I use Heavy Tanks. 2 Leopard Tanks are much better, faster, attacking defensive structures by default and cost much less resources and less population than 1 Heavy Tank
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                        • wrathchild_78
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                          there is still the problem that barracks units post atomic age are completely obsolete (with the only exception being helicopters and engineers)

                      • #45
                        IA heavy tanks (L1 & L2) are to weak and I ignored them.

                        I started using the HT in Global Age with L3.

                        My army configuration is:
                        2 HT L3
                        4 Howitzers
                        2 Heavy Supply Trucks
                        6 Heavy Bazookas
                        1 Heavy Machine Gun Infantry
                        1 Veteran Commando
                        21 Sub Machine Guns

                        I typically take 50 alliance troops in against large opponents and in war. For those I get 4 tanks, 10 submachine gunners.

                        We have the L10 alliance upgrade so all additional troops are GA as well.

                        I am Roman L211 Global Age.

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                        • wrathchild_78
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                          advance to AA mate. You are already to late. Do not make the same mistake I did...
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