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    I am a relative newbie (EA with 800 medals). It seems like the museum is a resource drain and is not very cost effective. Then again, I am new so it is prolly operator error.

    ANY suggestions on how to best utilize the museum would be GREATLY appreciated
    thanks in advance

  • #2
    Having only gotten the museum in CW (Or was it AA?) I concentrated on units/tactics l use on a regular basis. I think that would be a good place to start.
    Sour grapes make whine.

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    • #3
      I think you should focus on your main activities. Museum is for those who are bored and have more free time to mess with it ๐Ÿ˜†
      I once had 42k fragments, collected them until I could spend 1 hour of crafting and collecting artifacts ๐Ÿ˜†
      Then I forgot about that thing again. Hoarding fragments again, so I could craft more later.

      One thing that kinda distresses me, STORAGE! ๐Ÿ˜ญ Why 20?! We are now given war hall, and still with 20 capacity for both halls? Please...
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      • #4
        I disagree and feel itโ€™s important at all stages of the game. Iโ€™m a CW lvl240 player but much of my ability came from maxing out the museum when it arrived. I was fortunate to receive many resource boosting items which has helped me to expand / upgrade quickly. I believe I have 70% bonus on all resources looted on attacks. Iโ€™ll snipe attack and get north of 800K gold and food on most attacks.

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        • Alexey
          Alexey commented
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          You canโ€™t get many resource looting artifacts nowadays, so this option is not for beginners.

      • #5
        I'm pretty sure grooveboy will disagree with you Pungo cause he wanted the museum to be destroyed ๐Ÿ˜†

        Admit it everyone, once you get the fun (and stress) in museum you will waste a lot of time on it ๐Ÿ˜ and get addicted as well.
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        • #6
          i will refer you to this post:
          https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...253#post642253

          and i will also add, dont bother upgrading artifacts that arent very good. just make use of unupgraded one or two liners and hold out until you have something actually worth upgrading.

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          • #7
            I would say: donโ€™t upgrade artifacts until atomic or CWA age, but donโ€™t forget to collect fragments and store blueprints and supplies. You will definitely need museum at the higher age to boost the troops that you donโ€™t have access to yet (for example, strike fighters).

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            • #8
              I like the museum and my early artifacts have definitely helped me to upgrade more quickly. I've been seeing All Resources artifacts less often, but I did get a first-tier starting 11% one yesterday that I sold off, so they are still out there.

              I think the important thing to know about the artifacts is what to look for. Initially, I thought getting an artifact that had both tiers 1 and 2 unlocked was good. That's rarely the case. Instead, you need to look at the starting percentages on every tier. The highest you can get on a regular artifact is 11% starting on every tier. The highest on a war artifact is 6% starting on every tier. Knowing this, you'll be able to quickly look at the starting percentages to evaluatel whether or not it's worth keeping. There are a few exceptions, though.

              I have a few artifacts that I use temporarily and I don't expect to unlock higher tiers. Some good temporary use benefits are: Vault Capacity, Vault Interest, and discounted costs like Forest Expansion Cost Refund or Library Tech Gold/Food Cost. You want to really look for good starting percentages in the first two tiers, since you'll be swapping them in and out only when you need them, so the later tiers are much less important. For example, before you collect from you vault, load artifacts that increase the vault interest. Then before you put the resources back into the vault, load artifacts that increase the vault capacity. Similarly, before you spend resources to research something or to clear away a forest square, load artifacts that reduce the cost. And if you get attacked regularly, you may want to load artifacts the increase the refund you get when someone raids you instead of the more offensive-minded artifacts you'll want for when you go attacking.

              You can also increase the capacity of your museum from within the museum to hold more artifacts. This was always pretty helpful, but now with both raid and war artifacts, it's pretty much required in order to hold everything you're going to need. Avoid building one artifact at a time, but instead build 5 whenever you have enough fragments. How much you upgrade the tiers after that is really up to you, but IMO it's worth upgrading every tier of an artifact you're using to at least level 2 since the first upgrade cost is so small (40 blue scrolls).

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Pungo View Post
                I disagree and feel itโ€™s important at all stages of the game. Iโ€™m a CW lvl240 player but much of my ability came from maxing out the museum when it arrived. I was fortunate to receive many resource boosting items which has helped me to expand / upgrade quickly. I believe I have 70% bonus on all resources looted on attacks. Iโ€™ll snipe attack and get north of 800K gold and food on most attacks.
                And what did you do before the museum came along? Did you learn how to play before it or did you just buy your way to the top?
                Younger players should learn how to play without relying on the museum. The museum should offer a nice bonus as you progress, not be the reason you progress. Ultimately players should rely on their skill to progress the museum, not the other way around. If you're lucky enough to get a 70% loot bonus then you can get by without skill, but not everyone is that lucky.
                Dont give people ridiculous advice.
                Last edited by Manifesto; 01-02-2019, 03:25 PM.
                Sour grapes make whine.

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                • Manifesto
                  Manifesto commented
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                  @KniferX
                  I don't think getting rss is about grinding at all. Sure, it feels that way sometimes, but smart players would use their skill to adapt and try/learn new strategies, new combos, even before the . Don't you think that comes under the definition of skill/ability? If most players don't have the luxury of museum bonuses, don't you think they have to rely on themselves?
                  In any case, my original point stands, which was the crux of my comment. Your argument is that skill doesn't get rss, which is partly true, imo, but not something l said. My original comment was players should not 'rely' on bonuses to get rss, they should develop their skills first.

                  Ps: you always talk about war and grinding. Can l suggest you stop warring if it's such a bore? I don't and I'm still enjoying the game.

                • KniferX
                  KniferX commented
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                  The example you're giving is of people adding layers of complexity and skill to the grind process because it is exactly that, boring when done too much and repetitive, so they try to make it different. That doesn't take away the fact that the most effective method of resource aquisition is about a couple of simple courses of action that do not have lots to do with skill.
                  Drop medals, skip good bases, raze down rushed/abandoned bases, or if you need oil only, wall miners and raiders, skip well defended refineries, attack weakly defended ones.
                  You say ''if you're lucky to get x loot bonus you can get by without skill'', which isn't true, skill is not much present either way. The museum user just gets to do less repeats of the actions mentioned above to get the same amount of resources.

                  P.S. After a paradigm shift through the rebalance and abandoning my second account, the game has become more enjoyable. I've simultaneously gained better offense, Amelia finished (and about to go CWA in the rush), NTG gain increased and resource rewards through the dominations bonus + yes, the lucky museum loot artifacts, means I have to attack less to get the needed resources. The game comfortably sits as a side hobby (which it was meant to be all along when you look at the build and upgrade times of everything) to be played a small bit every day, and then a burst of 2-3 hours of gameplay for an event or upgrade when necessary. Mostly satisfied now and looking forward to CWA.

                • Manifesto
                  Manifesto commented
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                  ''Drop medals, skip good bases, raze down rushed/abandoned bases, or if you need oil only, wall miners and raiders, skip well defended refineries, attack weakly defended ones''
                  Ok, you think these actions don't require lots of skill but l think these actions make my point.
                  Regardless of how little skill is involved, all these actions are players actually going out and 'making the effort', which was the crux of my original comment. The museum just adds some cream on the top for the lucky few.

              • #10
                I've held on to a few Pottery Artifacts that I use when I cycle out my Vault: one to Increase Interest when I collect Oil, and one to Increase Vault Capacity when depositing. Over time, I've noticed it's a nice little bump to something I was doing anyhow.
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                • yemen
                  yemen commented
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                  I used to do that, before the war museum meant that I now need 20 spots in the museum just to hold the artifacts on display. Now I have to think of every stored item as costing 50 crowns - 250 crowns for 5 extra storage. Not really worth it. You needed to upgrade the storage when the war museum was added.

                • No Angel
                  No Angel commented
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                  Storage please ๐Ÿ˜•
                  Maybe separate storage for each hall?
                  Or... Reduce the crown cost ๐Ÿ˜œ

              • #11
                I love the museum. Gave me lots of good things like almost double recourses when i attaque, 30% more hitpoints bombers. Nothing wrong with it. Just have patience.

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                • #12
                  I also do that TinSoldier and in addition I keep 2 artifacts that have -12% in OIL for Library research and use whenever I start reading a book that requires oil.
                  VERY handy cause all the books I have left unread require oil!!! lol

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by TinSoldier View Post
                    I've held on to a few Pottery Artifacts that I use when I cycle out my Vault: one to Increase Interest when I collect Oil, and one to Increase Vault Capacity when depositing. Over time, I've noticed it's a nice little bump to something I was doing anyhow.
                    I get almost 4K extra when I do this.

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                    • #14
                      The museum is making it too easy for people to get additional resources from attacking. I wonder if Nexon is aware of this?
                      It could eat into their end-of-year earnings and could affect Kim Jung-Ju's 'bottom line' !
                      Sour grapes make whine.

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                      • Alexey
                        Alexey commented
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                        My wife made 5,5 million resources from one attack recently, donโ€™t ruin this interest, please - I wouldnโ€™t be able to play without her)

                      • Manifesto
                        Manifesto commented
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                        Alexey
                        5.5million? Sorry but I'll need proof.
                        It's cases like this that make the game a joke. Good for your wife, not so good for others who have to rely on their own skill and minimal help.

                    • #15
                      More Storage please!
                      Take care of us Hoarders ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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